I am currently stuck at work and the power is out. My boss is a Dick and we have to sit at our desks do as soon as it comes on we can boot back up. Lame.
surprised Capuano got a 2 year deal for what i remember to be $12 mil, while Francis had to take a NRI. Seems like they’re similar pitchers, good deal by the reds
That’s what happens when you rush the market and try to make a splash early. Now that the music is getting ready to stop, a lot of pitchers are looking for chairs. I would have liked to have seen the Piarates get Francis on a minor league deal. He may not be much better, but probably wouldn’t be worse than Correia.
My thoughts exactly. Would have been a solid minor league signing, but name one thing Francis can do that Correia can’t. Correia has a better chance of bouncing back and being the decent pitcher that he used to be(not holding my breath though), where Francis has pretty much been Francis his entire career.
I’ll take Francis. He’s pitched in Colorado and the AL. I’d like to see what he can do in a pitcher’s park in a non-DH league. Correia has had the benefit of pitching in SF, SD and Pitt.
If he stays healthy, I believe Francis will have a better year than Correia, Karstens and maybe Maholm and Morton.
Francis has pretty much been Francis his entire career
I don’t really agree with this part, not that it matters much. Francis was a pretty good talent until he tore up his shoulder. Now, though, he really can’t be trusted to perform.
Including the 2 I was beating the drum for a ton last off-season (and, I turned out to be VERY wrong about) in Brandon Webb & Brad Penny. It’s unfortunate that a talent like Webb just can’t shake the injury bug and Penny looked pretty awful on a very good team last year. I don’t have the same interest in either this season.
But there are a few others.
Most are risks, of course, because they are coming off of injuries.
Speaking of, anyone have any news on how Chris Young is recovering??
That is certainly someone that I’d love to see the Pirates take a shot on and bring him back into the organization and could possible be had for a minor deal. Last thing I heard was that he wouldn’t quite be ready for the start of the season, but I didn’t know if anyone had any updates.
Have Ben Sheets or Jeremy Bonderman officially retired? They both sat out 2011 and BBRef lists final games for both of them. I found an article from last year saying Bonderman wasn’t up for rehab and hinted at retiring, but news searches for Sheets lists comments he’d previously made (re: Fielder in Milwaukee years ago). They’re deeper sleepers, but they fit your "super cheap super risky " mold.
I always liked Kawakami, but pitchers who don’t succeed in Atlanta worry me.
gah
A minor-league deal is exactly what I’d want him on.
WHYG Zane Smith - January 26, 2012
Not both he and Maholm can shut us out 2 times this year…
God Loves - January 26, 2012
Louisville has a better chance at the playoffs this season.
white angus - January 26, 2012
Let the moaning begin!
cocktailsfor2 - January 26, 2012
ok
I am currently stuck at work and the power is out. My boss is a Dick and we have to sit at our desks do as soon as it comes on we can boot back up. Lame.
Wizard of Woz - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I hate when that happens!
cocktailsfor2 - January 26, 2012
Egads, they really are committed to Kevin Correia as part of the rotation
Hoo boy.
Raybin - January 26, 2012
meh
his strikeout rate was frighteningly low, no risk on a minor league deal though.
johnnycuff - January 26, 2012
surprised Capuano got a 2 year deal for what i remember to be $12 mil, while Francis had to take a NRI. Seems like they’re similar pitchers, good deal by the reds
Danatural08 - January 26, 2012
That’s what happens when you rush the market and try to make a splash early. Now that the music is getting ready to stop, a lot of pitchers are looking for chairs. I would have liked to have seen the Piarates get Francis on a minor league deal. He may not be much better, but probably wouldn’t be worse than Correia.
Brakeman8 - January 26, 2012
Can someone tell the Reds to stop signing players? I’m so sick of the Reds already.
Spamrahan - January 26, 2012
i just emailed them.
will let you know if i hear anything.
white angus - January 26, 2012
Thanks!
Spamrahan - January 26, 2012
I think we should take a shot at carmona
tbote123 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Who?
You mean Roberto Hernandez Heredia?
SuperBaes - January 26, 2012
how much is his bail?
karreemofwheat - January 26, 2012
Isn’t he Leo Nunez?
Brakeman8 - January 26, 2012
As long as we're going for fictional players
How about Sidd Finch?
Aphthakid - January 26, 2012
"Eh...Oh Well"
My thoughts exactly. Would have been a solid minor league signing, but name one thing Francis can do that Correia can’t. Correia has a better chance of bouncing back and being the decent pitcher that he used to be(not holding my breath though), where Francis has pretty much been Francis his entire career.
BillBraskie - January 26, 2012
I’ll take Francis. He’s pitched in Colorado and the AL. I’d like to see what he can do in a pitcher’s park in a non-DH league. Correia has had the benefit of pitching in SF, SD and Pitt.
If he stays healthy, I believe Francis will have a better year than Correia, Karstens and maybe Maholm and Morton.
bolton - January 26, 2012
Actually if you look at his career splits you’ll find he got hit a bit harder pitching away from Coors.
BillBraskie - January 26, 2012
I'd take Francis all day over KC
Francis over the last two seasons (i.e., after major surgery) has pitched 287.1 innings and put up 4.6 fWAR.
Contrast that with Correia who over the course of his entire career (895 innings) has managed 4.7 fWAR in total.
One of the two is clearly the superior player and it isn’t Kevin Correia.
Raybin - January 26, 2012
Throw over 85 with his left arm?
No, wait, that’s not right… hmm…
I don’t really agree with this part, not that it matters much. Francis was a pretty good talent until he tore up his shoulder. Now, though, he really can’t be trusted to perform.
Vlad - January 26, 2012
Is a little more like it. Duke is still available…..
impliedi - January 26, 2012
I'm only half-joking, by the way.
impliedi - January 26, 2012
There's still a few guys out there.
Including the 2 I was beating the drum for a ton last off-season (and, I turned out to be VERY wrong about) in Brandon Webb & Brad Penny. It’s unfortunate that a talent like Webb just can’t shake the injury bug and Penny looked pretty awful on a very good team last year. I don’t have the same interest in either this season.
But there are a few others.
Most are risks, of course, because they are coming off of injuries.
Speaking of, anyone have any news on how Chris Young is recovering??
That is certainly someone that I’d love to see the Pirates take a shot on and bring him back into the organization and could possible be had for a minor deal. Last thing I heard was that he wouldn’t quite be ready for the start of the season, but I didn’t know if anyone had any updates.
impliedi - January 26, 2012
If there’s no news on Young, it’s generally safe to assume that he’s hurt again.
Vlad - January 27, 2012
I don’t think Micah Owings has signed with anybody yet. He’d be reasonable rotation/pen depth, and everybody likes pitchers who can hit.
Probably worth doing due diligence on health for Jon Garland, Kenshin Kawakami, and John Maine, too.
Vlad - January 27, 2012
Have Ben Sheets or Jeremy Bonderman officially retired? They both sat out 2011 and BBRef lists final games for both of them. I found an article from last year saying Bonderman wasn’t up for rehab and hinted at retiring, but news searches for Sheets lists comments he’d previously made (re: Fielder in Milwaukee years ago). They’re deeper sleepers, but they fit your "super cheap super risky " mold.
I always liked Kawakami, but pitchers who don’t succeed in Atlanta worry me.
SuperBaes - January 27, 2012
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